1 00:00:07,670 --> 00:00:05,030 this is the sts-133 interview with 2 00:00:09,830 --> 00:00:07,680 mission specialist dr michael barrett uh 3 00:00:11,350 --> 00:00:09,840 mike tell us tell us about your hometown 4 00:00:13,509 --> 00:00:11,360 what it was like growing up there and 5 00:00:16,230 --> 00:00:13,519 and how that place influenced you well 6 00:00:18,150 --> 00:00:16,240 my hometown was canvas washington up in 7 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:18,160 washington state in the southern 8 00:00:22,070 --> 00:00:20,320 southwestern area around right around 9 00:00:24,710 --> 00:00:22,080 the columbia river very beautiful very 10 00:00:26,630 --> 00:00:24,720 green farming community and it was just 11 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:26,640 a perfect upbringing just working on the 12 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:28,720 farm and going to school 13 00:00:32,310 --> 00:00:30,720 we learned about building and repairing 14 00:00:33,910 --> 00:00:32,320 and maintenance and taking care of 15 00:00:35,510 --> 00:00:33,920 animals along with just the standard 16 00:00:37,350 --> 00:00:35,520 educational stuff and it was just a 17 00:00:39,190 --> 00:00:37,360 perfect place to grow up 18 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:39,200 okay so that that 19 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:40,800 the opportunity probably to have 20 00:00:44,470 --> 00:00:42,719 hands-on with doing things i'm sure that 21 00:00:46,229 --> 00:00:44,480 that helped oh absolutely 22 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:46,239 on the farm you're always fixing things 23 00:00:49,910 --> 00:00:47,920 and the same is more or less true on 24 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:49,920 space station so 25 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:51,600 i think it definitely prepared me well 26 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:54,640 we grew up knowing how to use tools and 27 00:00:58,470 --> 00:00:56,640 both of my parents worked in spite of 28 00:01:01,110 --> 00:00:58,480 having a farm so we also grew up knowing 29 00:01:02,950 --> 00:01:01,120 how to prepare meals and and run a 30 00:01:04,950 --> 00:01:02,960 household so i think for my two brothers 31 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:04,960 and it was perfect preparation for a lot 32 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:07,200 of different paths okay 33 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:09,760 did you have a chance to to see that 34 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:12,960 region uh from space at all oh i sure 35 00:01:17,429 --> 00:01:15,119 did any chance that i got i would pretty 36 00:01:19,350 --> 00:01:17,439 much look at the passes that we would be 37 00:01:21,910 --> 00:01:19,360 taking over the pacific northwest and i 38 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:21,920 was always ready with a camera 39 00:01:25,030 --> 00:01:23,439 it's a it's called the evergreen state 40 00:01:26,550 --> 00:01:25,040 for a reason there's quite a bit of rain 41 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:26,560 there and that keeps our forests 42 00:01:30,469 --> 00:01:28,400 beautiful so it also makes it very 43 00:01:31,429 --> 00:01:30,479 difficult to photograph much of the year 44 00:01:33,190 --> 00:01:31,439 but fortunately i was up there 45 00:01:34,789 --> 00:01:33,200 throughout the summer and i was able to 46 00:01:36,550 --> 00:01:34,799 take lots of photographs during really 47 00:01:38,550 --> 00:01:36,560 clear weather i could see my hometown 48 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:38,560 the little lake i grew up on so yeah 49 00:01:41,830 --> 00:01:40,320 lots of good imagery what was the 50 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:41,840 reaction when you when you the first 51 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:43,920 time you saw it and just realizing hey 52 00:01:49,270 --> 00:01:47,040 i'm i'm way up here and i was there well 53 00:01:51,190 --> 00:01:49,280 first reaction was gosh we're going over 54 00:01:52,710 --> 00:01:51,200 this awfully fast you get your camera 55 00:01:54,870 --> 00:01:52,720 ready and you take a couple of pictures 56 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:54,880 and you're already gone 57 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:55,759 but 58 00:01:59,830 --> 00:01:57,360 the good thing is that it looks just as 59 00:02:01,510 --> 00:01:59,840 beautiful from space as it does from the 60 00:02:03,590 --> 00:02:01,520 ground from where you live in there so 61 00:02:07,590 --> 00:02:03,600 it's just natural beauty of that region 62 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:09,910 recount for us um the steps that that 63 00:02:14,309 --> 00:02:12,000 you've taken uh in your professional 64 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:14,319 career that that have led you here to 65 00:02:18,550 --> 00:02:15,680 nasa 66 00:02:20,550 --> 00:02:18,560 well interestingly i i probably uh have 67 00:02:22,630 --> 00:02:20,560 a story common to a lot of the people in 68 00:02:24,390 --> 00:02:22,640 the astronaut corps and that we go 69 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:24,400 through career crisis because we have so 70 00:02:29,830 --> 00:02:27,200 many broad interests a lot of us 71 00:02:32,229 --> 00:02:29,840 are interested in science and technology 72 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:32,239 but we're also interested in in flying 73 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:34,720 and engineering and practical things 74 00:02:37,990 --> 00:02:36,480 and i don't think i knew what i wanted 75 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:38,000 to be when i grew up until i was in my 76 00:02:42,150 --> 00:02:40,480 mid-30s or so 77 00:02:45,350 --> 00:02:42,160 i wanted to be a marine biologist at one 78 00:02:46,710 --> 00:02:45,360 time an astronomer an archaeologist and 79 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:46,720 when i went to undergrad at the 80 00:02:50,630 --> 00:02:49,120 university of washington my focus was 81 00:02:51,350 --> 00:02:50,640 marine zoology 82 00:02:58,710 --> 00:02:51,360 i 83 00:03:02,229 --> 00:02:58,720 and probably 84 00:03:04,710 --> 00:03:02,239 late during my undergrad years i started 85 00:03:06,550 --> 00:03:04,720 getting interested in space and the more 86 00:03:09,350 --> 00:03:06,560 i went through medical school i realized 87 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:09,360 that space is a field that puts so many 88 00:03:14,229 --> 00:03:11,680 things together that that i love 89 00:03:16,309 --> 00:03:14,239 and i ended up in 90 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:16,319 specializing in internal medicine mostly 91 00:03:21,190 --> 00:03:18,480 to learn pathophysiology well that i 92 00:03:23,430 --> 00:03:21,200 could then apply to the space program 93 00:03:25,190 --> 00:03:23,440 and then i went to a formal aerospace 94 00:03:26,869 --> 00:03:25,200 medical program in 95 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:26,879 ohio at wright state university in 96 00:03:30,869 --> 00:03:28,720 wright-patterson air force base 97 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:30,879 and the closer i got the more i realized 98 00:03:35,589 --> 00:03:33,519 that my suspicions were correct that 99 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:35,599 nothing puts everything together like 100 00:03:40,550 --> 00:03:38,560 the aerospace industry and having spent 101 00:03:42,070 --> 00:03:40,560 about nine years as a flight surgeon 102 00:03:43,110 --> 00:03:42,080 here and then coming to the astronaut 103 00:03:44,470 --> 00:03:43,120 corps 104 00:03:46,390 --> 00:03:44,480 that strengthened all of those 105 00:03:48,390 --> 00:03:46,400 suspicions we use 106 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:48,400 earth observation ocean science 107 00:03:52,789 --> 00:03:50,879 engineering flight 108 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:52,799 biomedical science of course all of 109 00:03:57,270 --> 00:03:54,400 these things are all together into one 110 00:03:58,869 --> 00:03:57,280 job there's nothing better than that 111 00:04:00,550 --> 00:03:58,879 then that obviously made it very 112 00:04:02,070 --> 00:04:00,560 attractive then to because you had all 113 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:02,080 these interests yeah absolutely 114 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:04,080 absolutely and i think i found my peers 115 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:05,680 here like a lot of us have we find 116 00:04:08,149 --> 00:04:06,640 people 117 00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:08,159 the same way who really didn't know what 118 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:10,159 they wanted to be necessarily because 119 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:12,720 everything interests them and again this 120 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:14,560 rolls it all together so i'm with a 121 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:16,320 bunch of people who 122 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:18,000 have solved their career anxiety by 123 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:20,320 coming to uh johnson space center okay 124 00:04:23,030 --> 00:04:21,359 okay 125 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:23,040 what then was it that that that 126 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:24,560 motivated you to 127 00:04:29,030 --> 00:04:27,440 to want to apply to 128 00:04:30,629 --> 00:04:29,040 going to the astronaut corps and and 129 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:30,639 tell us that story 130 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:32,960 i came down here to do space medicine my 131 00:04:37,270 --> 00:04:35,280 express interest and passion and it was 132 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:37,280 space medicine is space medicine to me 133 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:39,520 it's just one of the most amazing 134 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:40,800 specialties 135 00:04:44,469 --> 00:04:42,720 that you could possibly imagine 136 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:44,479 and it was really when we started 137 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:46,880 working the long duration flights with 138 00:04:50,070 --> 00:04:48,320 the russians in the shuttle mirror 139 00:04:51,990 --> 00:04:50,080 program that i came to a couple of 140 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:52,000 realizations first of all 141 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:54,160 if we want to get somewhere out of low 142 00:04:58,629 --> 00:04:56,000 earth orbit it's probably going to 143 00:04:59,990 --> 00:04:58,639 involve long periods of space flight and 144 00:05:01,909 --> 00:05:00,000 in particular long periods of 145 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:01,919 weightlessness going to mars 146 00:05:06,629 --> 00:05:04,400 going to asteroids and further 147 00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:06,639 and that's why the long duration flight 148 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:08,080 experience with the russians and of 149 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:09,440 course eventually the international 150 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:10,880 space station really started to interest 151 00:05:15,189 --> 00:05:13,120 me the second thing was that 152 00:05:16,710 --> 00:05:15,199 to really understand this environment 153 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:16,720 you really need to experience it 154 00:05:21,590 --> 00:05:18,720 yourself and that's what really 155 00:05:23,270 --> 00:05:21,600 motivated me to apply obviously i'd 156 00:05:25,749 --> 00:05:23,280 been close to the program met a lot of 157 00:05:27,510 --> 00:05:25,759 the astronauts in the office and got to 158 00:05:29,670 --> 00:05:27,520 understand what their job was like i 159 00:05:31,029 --> 00:05:29,680 could potentially see myself fitting 160 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:31,039 into that job although i didn't think 161 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:32,240 there was much of a chance of being 162 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:34,880 accepted but that was really the draw 163 00:05:44,070 --> 00:05:40,629 tell us how you would characterize the 164 00:05:46,070 --> 00:05:44,080 value of education uh in your life oh 165 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:46,080 without i mean education of course gives 166 00:05:52,710 --> 00:05:49,360 you the tools to act on your interests 167 00:05:55,830 --> 00:05:52,720 i think uh you don't have to come from 168 00:05:57,110 --> 00:05:55,840 an educational powerhouse to be educated 169 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:57,120 enough to 170 00:06:01,350 --> 00:05:59,120 pursue things that really interest you 171 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:01,360 and pursue your dreams if you will i 172 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:04,000 came from a fairly small community with 173 00:06:09,270 --> 00:06:06,720 good solid schools no question about it 174 00:06:11,110 --> 00:06:09,280 not wealthy schools but very good 175 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:11,120 idealistic teachers 176 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:13,600 and they empowered me to really act on 177 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:15,680 all those various interests that i had 178 00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:17,680 and nurtured when i grew up 179 00:06:22,870 --> 00:06:20,880 education is is an absolute right to 180 00:06:25,029 --> 00:06:22,880 people everybody should have the right 181 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:25,039 to pursue those dreams and again just to 182 00:06:32,070 --> 00:06:27,520 be empowered to do that education is is 183 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:34,230 in 2009 you spent some time on board 184 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:36,160 international space station as a member 185 00:06:40,469 --> 00:06:38,720 of the expeditions 19 and 20 crew uh 186 00:06:43,990 --> 00:06:40,479 talk about that time how it was living 187 00:06:45,749 --> 00:06:44,000 and working on iss and and how 188 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:45,759 actually getting to that environment 189 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:47,440 like you said and experiencing it for 190 00:06:50,629 --> 00:06:48,880 yourself 191 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:50,639 what were your thoughts about that 192 00:06:53,909 --> 00:06:52,080 well that's a great question i think 193 00:06:55,830 --> 00:06:53,919 flying in space is a wonderful 194 00:06:58,230 --> 00:06:55,840 experience for anybody no matter what 195 00:06:59,350 --> 00:06:58,240 their background but as a space medical 196 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:59,360 specialist 197 00:07:03,029 --> 00:07:00,960 my flight experience was like a dream 198 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:03,039 come true first of all it was a good 199 00:07:08,710 --> 00:07:06,160 long flight i spent 199 days in space 200 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:08,720 and i had a tremendous crew 201 00:07:12,629 --> 00:07:10,880 we saw the transition from three people 202 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:12,639 to six people as a permanent crew so 203 00:07:17,189 --> 00:07:14,319 that was very interesting 204 00:07:19,670 --> 00:07:17,199 but also very fortunate for me 205 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:19,680 i saw 22 other people during my flight 206 00:07:24,070 --> 00:07:21,680 experience besides myself 207 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:24,080 so i was able to kind of personally look 208 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:26,639 at my own adaptation process both 209 00:07:30,469 --> 00:07:28,560 physiologic what the body does in 210 00:07:32,950 --> 00:07:30,479 response to zero gravity 211 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:32,960 and behavioral how you learn to operate 212 00:07:37,510 --> 00:07:35,280 and perform well in zero gravity and 213 00:07:40,469 --> 00:07:37,520 then i saw that in various other people 214 00:07:42,469 --> 00:07:40,479 as well people who had had rich flight 215 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:42,479 experiences had spent over a year in 216 00:07:47,189 --> 00:07:45,120 space like my commander gennady padalka 217 00:07:48,710 --> 00:07:47,199 people who were doing their first space 218 00:07:51,189 --> 00:07:48,720 flights and only being there for a short 219 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:51,199 period of time and all of these folks 220 00:07:55,510 --> 00:07:52,000 had 221 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:55,520 i think a fairly wide envelope of 222 00:07:59,430 --> 00:07:56,960 performance 223 00:08:01,270 --> 00:07:59,440 capabilities and flight experiences all 224 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:01,280 of them very successful 225 00:08:05,189 --> 00:08:02,800 but it allowed me to make some 226 00:08:06,469 --> 00:08:05,199 observations some recommendations if you 227 00:08:09,110 --> 00:08:06,479 will 228 00:08:11,029 --> 00:08:09,120 it i think allowed us to 229 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:11,039 systematically write down some of these 230 00:08:14,629 --> 00:08:13,120 milestones that i otherwise wouldn't 231 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:14,639 have been able to do without being up 232 00:08:17,670 --> 00:08:16,240 there and seeing so many people and 233 00:08:19,830 --> 00:08:17,680 hopefully to pass on some of these 234 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:19,840 little pearls to others who fly and help 235 00:08:22,469 --> 00:08:20,879 them 236 00:08:25,589 --> 00:08:22,479 get a little bit ahead of this curve and 237 00:08:28,230 --> 00:08:25,599 and be good performers quicker okay 238 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:28,240 uh now although you've been 239 00:08:31,430 --> 00:08:30,400 been on iss before and you've been up 240 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:31,440 there 241 00:08:35,029 --> 00:08:33,440 for for a bit this is going to be your 242 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:35,039 first shuttle flight 243 00:08:38,230 --> 00:08:36,719 that's right tell us about that the 244 00:08:41,110 --> 00:08:38,240 anticipation with that what are you what 245 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:41,120 are your thoughts about that well 246 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:42,880 it again it will be my first shuttle 247 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:44,959 flight first of all i never expected to 248 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:47,120 have a shuttle flight when i went away 249 00:08:51,910 --> 00:08:50,240 to russia to fly on the soyuz 250 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:51,920 we already knew that the shuttle program 251 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:55,120 was winding down and i actually recycled 252 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:56,640 all of my shuttle training materials 253 00:08:59,590 --> 00:08:58,080 before i got on the plane to go to 254 00:09:01,670 --> 00:08:59,600 russia because i thought that door had 255 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:01,680 been closed so i was very very surprised 256 00:09:05,190 --> 00:09:02,880 honored 257 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:05,200 shocked if you will to be assigned to a 258 00:09:08,710 --> 00:09:07,200 shuttle flight before i even landed then 259 00:09:10,710 --> 00:09:08,720 of course i had to scramble to find my 260 00:09:13,269 --> 00:09:10,720 training materials 261 00:09:15,110 --> 00:09:13,279 but there's two things the 262 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:15,120 chance to fly on a brand new vehicle and 263 00:09:18,870 --> 00:09:17,200 to learn a new system obviously was was 264 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:18,880 a wonderful thing and i'm really 265 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:21,040 enjoying that right now with my crew 266 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:22,399 the other thing is that i've already 267 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:24,560 been in space so a lot of the anxieties 268 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:27,200 about being in zero gravity and how will 269 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:27,839 i 270 00:09:55,910 --> 00:09:54,240 just huge to be able to carry 271 00:09:57,590 --> 00:09:55,920 the load to orbit that it does the 272 00:09:59,990 --> 00:09:57,600 number of people that it does it's a 273 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:00,000 very complex machine and i'm really 274 00:10:04,790 --> 00:10:02,880 looking forward to flying in that okay 275 00:10:07,110 --> 00:10:04,800 everyone on this crew has has been to 276 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:07,120 space before uh including three crew 277 00:10:11,350 --> 00:10:09,040 members including yourself who've spent 278 00:10:13,509 --> 00:10:11,360 time on iss um 279 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:13,519 how much of a benefit is it going to be 280 00:10:18,230 --> 00:10:15,920 having that experience base to 281 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:18,240 successfully completing this mission i 282 00:10:22,470 --> 00:10:20,160 think it's tremendously beneficial to 283 00:10:23,990 --> 00:10:22,480 have veteran crew members on on a flight 284 00:10:27,430 --> 00:10:24,000 and our flight happens to be all 285 00:10:30,310 --> 00:10:27,440 veterans it's a bit of a luxury in a way 286 00:10:32,230 --> 00:10:30,320 the experience for nicole stott and tim 287 00:10:34,870 --> 00:10:32,240 copra happened to coincide with my 288 00:10:36,310 --> 00:10:34,880 flight so not only do we all have that 289 00:10:38,389 --> 00:10:36,320 long duration experience we know how 290 00:10:39,990 --> 00:10:38,399 each other works how one another works 291 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:40,000 up there and how to work together and so 292 00:10:44,069 --> 00:10:42,240 i think that's a tremendous benefit as 293 00:10:45,990 --> 00:10:44,079 we start doing training 294 00:10:47,750 --> 00:10:46,000 events together we already know how to 295 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:47,760 communicate with one another we know one 296 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:49,519 another's habits and i think we work 297 00:10:53,670 --> 00:10:52,000 very effectively and efficiently so uh 298 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:53,680 training in preparation for this flight 299 00:10:57,269 --> 00:10:55,360 has been very very smooth largely 300 00:10:59,030 --> 00:10:57,279 because of that okay 301 00:11:01,350 --> 00:10:59,040 and speaking of the training the content 302 00:11:03,829 --> 00:11:01,360 of the mission has changed 303 00:11:05,829 --> 00:11:03,839 since she began training and it's 304 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:05,839 as we speak i'm sure probably still 305 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:06,880 being 306 00:11:10,150 --> 00:11:08,800 solidified 307 00:11:11,829 --> 00:11:10,160 has it been 308 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:11,839 have there been much many challenges 309 00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:13,040 into 310 00:11:17,750 --> 00:11:15,200 i guess uh adjusting to those changes at 311 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:17,760 all well the changes are are good news 312 00:11:22,069 --> 00:11:19,440 for us because 313 00:11:23,509 --> 00:11:22,079 our flight has been extended we have an 314 00:11:24,949 --> 00:11:23,519 11-day mission now rather than an 315 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:24,959 eight-day mission and that's because the 316 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:27,920 addition of two spacewalks that tim 317 00:11:32,069 --> 00:11:30,000 copra and al drew will be doing so we're 318 00:11:33,990 --> 00:11:32,079 actually very happy to get those 319 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:34,000 and the training 320 00:11:38,310 --> 00:11:35,760 flow hasn't really extended that much 321 00:11:39,750 --> 00:11:38,320 we've added six weeks or so and the pace 322 00:11:41,670 --> 00:11:39,760 of training is already fairly 323 00:11:45,030 --> 00:11:41,680 comfortable and so to get that extra 324 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:45,040 time to fit these training events in 325 00:11:49,350 --> 00:11:47,360 i think helps us out a lot we'll have a 326 00:11:51,350 --> 00:11:49,360 good pace but not an exhausting pace and 327 00:11:52,550 --> 00:11:51,360 getting ready for a flight so we're 328 00:11:54,310 --> 00:11:52,560 actually very happy to have the 329 00:11:55,990 --> 00:11:54,320 additional spacewalks and and some of 330 00:11:58,230 --> 00:11:56,000 the robotics activities that go with 331 00:12:00,150 --> 00:11:58,240 that 332 00:12:01,750 --> 00:12:00,160 tell us how you would uh characterize 333 00:12:04,230 --> 00:12:01,760 the contributions of the thousands of 334 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:04,240 people who work behind the scenes to 335 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:06,480 ensure the success and safety 336 00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:08,800 of the crew in every mission 337 00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:10,800 as we've prepared for our shuttle 338 00:12:14,150 --> 00:12:12,560 mission we've certainly gone to visit 339 00:12:15,910 --> 00:12:14,160 some of these places we just got back 340 00:12:18,389 --> 00:12:15,920 from the kennedy space center here 341 00:12:20,389 --> 00:12:18,399 recently to look at discovery 342 00:12:22,870 --> 00:12:20,399 we went to michoud to look at our 343 00:12:24,949 --> 00:12:22,880 external tank and met with the workers 344 00:12:27,509 --> 00:12:24,959 who are getting that all prepared and 345 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:27,519 the one thing that really strikes you 346 00:12:30,310 --> 00:12:28,800 aside from the fact that they're very 347 00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:30,320 professional experience is that they're 348 00:12:34,949 --> 00:12:32,160 very dedicated 349 00:12:37,190 --> 00:12:34,959 and almost everybody there is working 350 00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:37,200 extra hours and and going extra miles to 351 00:12:41,350 --> 00:12:39,279 make everything work and this is not a 352 00:12:42,870 --> 00:12:41,360 new thing that's their standard 353 00:12:45,110 --> 00:12:42,880 operating curve 354 00:12:47,269 --> 00:12:45,120 everybody keeps their head in the game 355 00:12:49,990 --> 00:12:47,279 and the orbiters have been looking very 356 00:12:51,190 --> 00:12:50,000 very clean recently and largely uh 357 00:12:53,509 --> 00:12:51,200 because of that when you look at the 358 00:12:55,590 --> 00:12:53,519 fact that the the program is winding 359 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:55,600 down and everybody's aware of that but 360 00:12:59,590 --> 00:12:57,360 then you look at the quality 361 00:13:01,269 --> 00:12:59,600 metrics if you will with the uh 362 00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:01,279 uh 363 00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:03,040 indicators that tell you what shape the 364 00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:04,959 orbiter and its parts are in there 365 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:08,079 they're very very good nobody has 366 00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:10,399 let me rephrase that everybody is just 367 00:13:15,350 --> 00:13:12,560 maintaining an incredibly high if not 368 00:13:17,910 --> 00:13:15,360 higher standard of professionalism 369 00:13:19,269 --> 00:13:17,920 to keep this program running so we we 370 00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:19,279 have nothing but admiration and 371 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:21,760 gratitude for what these people do it's 372 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:24,320 i would have to say that uh of all that 373 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:27,360 nasa is our hardware our technology our 374 00:13:30,790 --> 00:13:28,800 exploration 375 00:13:32,310 --> 00:13:30,800 it's our people and our brain trust that 376 00:13:34,550 --> 00:13:32,320 probably constitute the greatest 377 00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:34,560 treasure and you know these people who 378 00:13:39,829 --> 00:13:36,320 process the orbiters and our payloads 379 00:13:44,230 --> 00:13:42,310 if your launch schedule holds you're 380 00:13:45,509 --> 00:13:44,240 scheduled to be on orbit 381 00:13:47,430 --> 00:13:45,519 right around the time of the 10th 382 00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:47,440 anniversary of the arrival of expedition 383 00:13:51,829 --> 00:13:48,800 one that's the crew that established 384 00:13:53,990 --> 00:13:51,839 continuous human presence on iss right 385 00:13:58,550 --> 00:13:54,000 discuss the the significance of of the 386 00:14:00,949 --> 00:13:58,560 their milestone uh and um the uh 387 00:14:02,310 --> 00:14:00,959 the future of how space station's gonna 388 00:14:04,629 --> 00:14:02,320 to 389 00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:04,639 help the future of space exploration 390 00:14:09,189 --> 00:14:06,480 well i think 10 years is a huge 391 00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:09,199 milestone and it's not just an 392 00:14:12,949 --> 00:14:10,959 anniversary of a platform we put up 393 00:14:13,750 --> 00:14:12,959 there and and put people on and they did 394 00:14:17,030 --> 00:14:13,760 work 395 00:14:19,189 --> 00:14:17,040 this program this platform has grown 396 00:14:20,870 --> 00:14:19,199 tremendously during that 10-year period 397 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:20,880 it continues to add in size and 398 00:14:25,189 --> 00:14:23,600 complexity it's been continually manned 399 00:14:26,550 --> 00:14:25,199 through that 10-year period which is an 400 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:26,560 amazing thing 401 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:28,880 and the maturity of the program i think 402 00:14:32,629 --> 00:14:31,680 is what really shows after 10 years 403 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:32,639 you 404 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:34,480 have a tremendous challenge in front of 405 00:14:40,150 --> 00:14:37,440 you to plan out every 406 00:14:41,430 --> 00:14:40,160 every turn of a screw every push of a 407 00:14:43,509 --> 00:14:41,440 button 408 00:14:45,670 --> 00:14:43,519 every opening of a power channel that 409 00:14:47,509 --> 00:14:45,680 makes a space station work it's the 410 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:47,519 things you don't anticipate that really 411 00:14:53,110 --> 00:14:50,320 challenge you and after 10 years we have 412 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:53,120 learned how to work in space and how to 413 00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:56,160 solve problems that we didn't anticipate 414 00:15:00,790 --> 00:14:58,959 and only experience teaches you that and 415 00:15:02,550 --> 00:15:00,800 the 10 years of experience we've accrued 416 00:15:03,829 --> 00:15:02,560 on space station has just made us so 417 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:03,839 much better 418 00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:06,000 you uh you can look at the maturity by 419 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:08,240 just the day-to-day operations right now 420 00:15:11,509 --> 00:15:09,440 and 421 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:11,519 filling six people's timeline with 422 00:15:14,629 --> 00:15:13,360 science and maintenance activities and 423 00:15:17,110 --> 00:15:14,639 all the people on the ground that have 424 00:15:19,110 --> 00:15:17,120 to come together to make that work it's 425 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:19,120 like conducting a symphony and and it 426 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:22,000 works very well right now so aside from 427 00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:23,600 the fact that we did what we said we 428 00:15:26,629 --> 00:15:25,040 were going to do we've also done a lot 429 00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:26,639 of things we didn't anticipate that we 430 00:15:29,350 --> 00:15:28,079 were going to do and and are very much 431 00:15:31,269 --> 00:15:29,360 richer for it 432 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:31,279 that's the kind of experience that you 433 00:15:34,629 --> 00:15:32,160 need 434 00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:34,639 to go further when you are fielding new 435 00:15:37,749 --> 00:15:36,480 systems and feeling new 436 00:15:40,550 --> 00:15:37,759 operational 437 00:15:42,069 --> 00:15:40,560 procedures if you will plans you really 438 00:15:44,230 --> 00:15:42,079 have to have that base of experience to 439 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:44,240 do it confidently and station has given 440 00:15:48,550 --> 00:15:45,680 us that and will continue to give us 441 00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:50,790 tell us if you will in a nutshell what 442 00:15:54,670 --> 00:15:52,480 the what the key objectives are for 443 00:15:58,310 --> 00:15:54,680 sts-133 444 00:15:59,670 --> 00:15:58,320 sds-133 will be delivering a 445 00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:59,680 multi-purpose 446 00:16:04,389 --> 00:16:01,120 logistics module which is being 447 00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:04,399 converted into a permanent module and 448 00:16:09,030 --> 00:16:06,480 that will actually stay on the station 449 00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:09,040 normally these modules take cargo up and 450 00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:10,560 and bring them back 451 00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:12,959 this one is being converted into 452 00:16:16,629 --> 00:16:14,800 a closet if you will a really 453 00:16:19,269 --> 00:16:16,639 magnificent closet 454 00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:19,279 that will allow storage and we really 455 00:16:24,470 --> 00:16:21,360 need storage room on the international 456 00:16:26,949 --> 00:16:24,480 station so the pmm as it's called will 457 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:26,959 be attached to node one and stay there 458 00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:29,360 is probably the the last largest u.s 459 00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:32,000 piece that will add to the station's uh 460 00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:34,079 structure we're also taking up an 461 00:16:39,110 --> 00:16:36,560 express logistics carrier with a large 462 00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:39,120 radiator on it and we'll be attaching 463 00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:40,959 that to the truss and that radiator will 464 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:42,800 be available as a spare for the station 465 00:16:47,430 --> 00:16:45,600 as we need it and a lot of cargo 466 00:16:49,749 --> 00:16:47,440 transfer as for every shuttle that 467 00:16:51,670 --> 00:16:49,759 visits the station now we bring 468 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:51,680 pressurized cargo from 469 00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:53,920 whatever modules we're taking up and we 470 00:16:57,749 --> 00:16:55,759 transfer that to the station 471 00:16:59,829 --> 00:16:57,759 we bring water to the station which we 472 00:17:02,629 --> 00:16:59,839 produce on the space shuttle with our 473 00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:02,639 fuel cells and very importantly the 474 00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:04,799 shuttle will be able to return things 475 00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:06,880 from the space station to the ground a 476 00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:08,799 lot of science results for instance 477 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:10,720 consist of frozen samples which we'll be 478 00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:13,280 transferring to our glacier freezer on 479 00:17:17,189 --> 00:17:15,120 the shuttle mid deck and bringing those 480 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:17,199 down to the ground for analysis and that 481 00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:18,480 helps us to complete a lot of our 482 00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:20,079 biomedical science 483 00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:22,079 so our mission has a lot of 484 00:17:26,309 --> 00:17:24,240 diverse aspects about it the things that 485 00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:26,319 really make space flight wonderful cargo 486 00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:28,640 transfer new modules 487 00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:31,200 the big logistics carrier and science 488 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:33,360 transfer okay 489 00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:36,000 uh and as mission specialist three uh on 490 00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:38,400 the flight tell us what some of your key 491 00:17:43,669 --> 00:17:40,880 responsibilities are for the mission 492 00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:43,679 my responsibilities are a bit diverse i 493 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:45,280 think like everybody's and again that's 494 00:17:49,270 --> 00:17:47,520 what makes the flight experience quite 495 00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:49,280 wonderful i'll be doing a lot of 496 00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:51,360 robotics activities um helping to 497 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:53,760 install the pmm into its permanent place 498 00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:55,919 and i'll be actually flying tim copper 499 00:18:00,870 --> 00:17:58,240 around on the station arm as he goes 500 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:00,880 about his eva work which for me will be 501 00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:03,200 very interesting and very exciting 502 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:05,919 i will be in charge of the the 503 00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:07,600 after launch so as we call the post 504 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:09,280 insertion plan and getting the orbiter 505 00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:11,600 ready to be a spaceship rather than a 506 00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:13,280 rocket ship that goes to the atmosphere 507 00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:14,960 and then at the end of the mission 508 00:18:19,909 --> 00:18:17,840 uh helping to turn us back into a an 509 00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:19,919 airplane a space plane 510 00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:22,559 to get ready to deorbit and land 511 00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:24,480 i'll be obviously the crew medical 512 00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:26,960 officer on board doing some science 513 00:18:32,470 --> 00:18:30,720 experiments as well and um 514 00:18:36,070 --> 00:18:32,480 various other sundry 515 00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:36,080 things can't they get too much else okay 516 00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:38,160 food guy food guy yeah yeah that's 517 00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:42,789 us 518 00:18:48,310 --> 00:18:46,559 a little bit about how the the pmm um 519 00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:48,320 differs um 520 00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:51,440 i guess in in form how it's been 521 00:18:55,750 --> 00:18:53,360 outfitted or retrofitted uh to be 522 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:55,760 different from an mplm 523 00:18:59,590 --> 00:18:58,240 to make it a permanent part of the 524 00:19:02,630 --> 00:18:59,600 station 525 00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:02,640 well the mplms of course are designed to 526 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:04,480 take cargo up and bring them back so 527 00:19:07,510 --> 00:19:06,160 they never spend 528 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:07,520 much more than 529 00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:10,320 10 days or so on station and so they're 530 00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:12,559 they're built accordingly uh to leave 531 00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:14,400 one up there permanently and and these 532 00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:16,559 when they go up are roughly 22 000 533 00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:18,080 pounds so we're talking about a fairly 534 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:20,320 large module to leave one permanently 535 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:22,400 you have to shield it against some of 536 00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:23,280 the 537 00:19:28,789 --> 00:19:26,960 that you didn't need to 538 00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:28,799 for a short period of time 539 00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:30,960 we had to add some shielding for micro 540 00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:33,120 meteoroid protection there's a lot of 541 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:34,960 debris flying around in low earth orbit 542 00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:35,840 and 543 00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:37,280 we have to give it a little bit better 544 00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:39,280 shielding to stay up there permanently 545 00:19:42,789 --> 00:19:40,799 and also 546 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:42,799 we had to condition it for the heat 547 00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:45,520 cycles and a few days of heat cycling 548 00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:47,360 between the extremes of being in the sun 549 00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:49,520 up there which can give you 150 degrees 550 00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:51,760 centigrade and then being in shadow 551 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:53,679 which can be minus 150 degrees 552 00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:54,960 centigrade 553 00:19:58,310 --> 00:19:56,720 you have to protect against that if 554 00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:58,320 you're planning to keep a module up 555 00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:01,120 there continually we've had to change 556 00:20:04,950 --> 00:20:03,600 some of the ventilation in there and 557 00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:04,960 change some of the electronics and the 558 00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:07,120 control aspects of it 559 00:20:12,149 --> 00:20:09,840 but for the most part the mplm was very 560 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,159 amenable to this kind of change and all 561 00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,240 that i mentioned has not taken the 562 00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:16,799 italian space agency very long to effect 563 00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:19,120 so it tells you that the modules are 564 00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:21,039 already fairly robust and we're quite 565 00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:22,880 amenable to leaving up there on a 566 00:20:25,270 --> 00:20:24,240 permanent basis 567 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:25,280 and i believe 568 00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:26,880 that the leonardo module that we're 569 00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:29,280 taking up has already flown seven times 570 00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:31,919 so this is a very experienced module its 571 00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:33,600 final flight i believe its eighth flight 572 00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:35,840 will be to park it and become a big part 573 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:38,720 of the space station so okay 574 00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:39,600 uh 575 00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:41,440 your crew is also scheduled to deliver 576 00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:44,000 robonaut uh r2 uh tell us what you know 577 00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:44,880 about 578 00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:47,600 its purpose and and the plan for it well 579 00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:50,880 robonaut r2 is very interesting 580 00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:53,600 uh we've been looking at ways to 581 00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:56,559 help the human in space flight and 582 00:21:00,710 --> 00:20:58,320 it's probably no coincidence that as you 583 00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:00,720 look at the human tasks that are 584 00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:02,240 required for space flight and you look 585 00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:05,120 at a machine if you will that will help 586 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:07,919 with that it starts to resemble a human 587 00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:09,840 for the higher fidelity support that it 588 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:12,799 can give the human so robonaut 2 indeed 589 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:15,280 becomes the first humanoid robot in 590 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:17,760 space so we're very excited about that 591 00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:18,720 and 592 00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:20,880 unfortunately we won't be able to 593 00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:23,280 unpack it and use it it'll be a complex 594 00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:25,679 process and we'll go on for for future 595 00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:27,120 station crews 596 00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:28,640 with any luck some of us will get back 597 00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:31,120 on station and be able to see it but 598 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:33,679 robonaut becomes the first test bed to 599 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:34,880 really 600 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:37,679 see what a dexterous humanoid robot can 601 00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:40,320 do in space robonaut is is very 602 00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:42,080 impressive to me as a medical doctor i 603 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:43,840 was able to look at it shake hands with 604 00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:46,320 it and one of the first things i noted 605 00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:47,760 was that the 606 00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:49,919 control actuators in the fingers are 607 00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:50,799 very 608 00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:54,880 the tendons in a human hand 609 00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:57,600 and they can vary the sensitivity in the 610 00:22:01,430 --> 00:22:00,080 grip on this just like a human would do 611 00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:01,440 when it's doing different different 612 00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:02,880 tasks 613 00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:04,240 some things require more manual 614 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:06,080 dexterity less force some things 615 00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:07,919 obviously a little bit more force and 616 00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,159 robonaut can be smart enough to know 617 00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:12,559 when to use more and less force 618 00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:14,240 so i think it's very exciting to be able 619 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:17,039 to test bed these concepts with robonaut 620 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:20,400 2 with r2 rather and see what it can do 621 00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:21,360 i think 622 00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:23,280 we will see the beginning of a very long 623 00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,640 and fruitful 624 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:26,960 life as we develop the the technologies 625 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:30,400 to make a humanoid robot useful in space 626 00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:35,510 on the day after you make it to orbit 627 00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:37,039 the crew is scheduled to do an 628 00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:38,799 inspection of the shuttle's exterior 629 00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:41,200 tiles what tell us about your day today 630 00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:43,200 what are you involved with that day 631 00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:44,960 well the second day 632 00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:47,440 is a very busy day a lot of different 633 00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:48,640 activities 634 00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,559 mostly getting ready for 635 00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:52,400 the docking and the transfer activities 636 00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:53,679 that we're going to be doing on the next 637 00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:54,799 day 638 00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:57,039 my job among other things is to get the 639 00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:59,200 network set up on the space shuttle and 640 00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,720 most of that i'll do on flight day one 641 00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:02,400 but i'll be completing that network 642 00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:05,039 setup on flight day two we will be 643 00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:07,600 checking out the emu's the space suits 644 00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:10,159 that al drew and tim copra will be using 645 00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:12,480 and that'll take a goodly bit of time 646 00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:13,919 something i'm really looking forward to 647 00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:15,760 i did that on space station several 648 00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:17,520 times and to do that on the shuttle now 649 00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:20,240 will be i think very interesting for me 650 00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:21,679 i will be checking out the rendezvous 651 00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:23,919 tools that we'll be using the next day 652 00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:26,799 and i'll be uh kind of driving the 653 00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:28,640 overall big picture for rendezvous on 654 00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:30,159 flight day three 655 00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:31,840 so flight day two will give us a chance 656 00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:33,200 to make sure everything is connected and 657 00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,880 works right and that's something i'm 658 00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:36,799 very interested in as well plus some 659 00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:39,520 science activities we'll have the 660 00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:41,279 vaccine experiment and the cells 661 00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:42,559 experiment on the mid-deck of the 662 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:44,480 shuttle and i'll be checking after their 663 00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:46,000 health and making sure that they're 664 00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:48,159 functioning properly and just the 665 00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,600 day-to-day maintenance on the shuttle 666 00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:51,360 cleaning filters and 667 00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:57,190 and then the following day rendezvous 668 00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:58,720 and docking as you mentioned 669 00:24:01,350 --> 00:24:00,080 walk us through if you will what you'll 670 00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:01,360 be doing 671 00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:02,640 on that day 672 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,880 well docking day as we call it d-day is 673 00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:06,720 a very big day for all of us it involves 674 00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:08,559 the entire crew all six of us will be 675 00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:09,840 involved in that 676 00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:12,080 steve lindsey and eric bowe as the 677 00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:13,679 commander and pilots will obviously be 678 00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:16,720 doing all the dynamic flight operations 679 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,559 my job will be to follow the entire 680 00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:20,880 docking timeline along with those two 681 00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:23,120 gentlemen and make sure that all of our 682 00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:24,799 navigational sensors the things that 683 00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:26,720 allow us to come together to make our 684 00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:28,799 correction burns and eventually to dock 685 00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:30,880 with the station are all working in an 686 00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:33,200 integrated fashion we have a rendezvous 687 00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:36,320 radar we have a laser range finder which 688 00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:37,679 helps us out 689 00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:39,600 we've got the overall navigation 690 00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:41,679 information that goes to the shuttle all 691 00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:43,919 of those come together on a laptop based 692 00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:46,640 program we call rpop and i'll be as we 693 00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:48,640 call it the rpop driver making sure that 694 00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:50,000 all of those sensors are giving us a 695 00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:52,000 coherent picture which feeds 696 00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:53,279 all of our 697 00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:55,120 flight activities 698 00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:56,240 and 699 00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:57,919 i'm really looking forward to seeing all 700 00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:59,440 that work together we've been training 701 00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:01,600 very hard to make sure that 702 00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:03,600 if one of those navigational sensors 703 00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:06,559 drops out we can use the other ones to 704 00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,480 make our rendezvous work but 705 00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:10,480 overall it's again like conducting a 706 00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:12,159 little symphony of information and 707 00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:13,600 making sure that we get a good sound out 708 00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:15,039 of it and end up with a good docking at 709 00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:16,159 the end 710 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,240 and and once you dock the work doesn't 711 00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,320 stop there you'll you'll then have to 712 00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:22,320 get right into getting that logistics 713 00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:24,080 carrier alc4 714 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:25,440 out of the payload pay talk us through 715 00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:26,880 what's going to happen and and how 716 00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:28,880 you're going to accomplish that okay 717 00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:30,880 i'll do my best because again i'm not 718 00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:32,880 scheduled to do it and i don't 719 00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,559 i haven't trained on it but here goes 720 00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,320 okay 721 00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:38,000 well you're right we'll have to be very 722 00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:40,559 busy immediately after docking we'll be 723 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,960 able to get a quick handshake with our 724 00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:44,640 crewmates on station we're really 725 00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:46,080 looking forward to seeing them we'll get 726 00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:48,080 a quick safety briefing and make sure 727 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:49,919 that everybody knows how to 728 00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:51,760 be safe on that magnificent stack up 729 00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:53,679 there and then we'll go right to work 730 00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:56,159 the elc 4 does come out on that first 731 00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:58,880 doc day and it'll be a very interesting 732 00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:00,799 time because it requires coordination 733 00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:03,039 between two robotic arms which is always 734 00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:05,120 kind of exciting we'll be using the 735 00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:07,600 station arm to actually remove that 736 00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:09,440 express logistics carrier from the 737 00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:11,279 shuttle payload bay and that's a pretty 738 00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:13,120 big piece of equipment by the way with 739 00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:14,320 the uh 740 00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:16,000 radiator on it without the radiator 741 00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:18,240 weighs about ten thousand pounds and uh 742 00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:20,799 so it's actually fairly massive 743 00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:22,640 once we pluck it out with the space 744 00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:25,279 station arm will then hand that off to 745 00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:27,039 space shuttle arm 746 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:29,440 while that space station arm then can 747 00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:32,080 walk off from where it is attached 748 00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,159 originally which is on node 2. 749 00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:36,320 it will then attach itself to our mobile 750 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:39,039 base servicer which is a an arm carrier 751 00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:41,200 if you will that goes along the truss 752 00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:43,679 and once it's established on that mobile 753 00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:46,720 base it will then take again the elc 754 00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:48,960 from the shuttle arm and then we'll be 755 00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:51,039 able to park it in its final parking 756 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,480 place which is down on the starboard 757 00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:54,960 truss so it's a bit of choreography and 758 00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:55,840 it's a 759 00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:59,440 we are if we want to get something from 760 00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:01,840 point a to point b and point b is a long 761 00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:04,559 way away but we have to do it precisely 762 00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:06,559 and accurately and fairly quickly 763 00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,240 because all of these things can't stay 764 00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:10,320 out in the space weather for too long 765 00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:12,960 without being connected to power 766 00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:15,440 this is how we we are able to do it so 767 00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:21,830 much the same as you just did with the 768 00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:23,919 elc-4 if you would describe how you're 769 00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,360 going to get the pmm out of the payload 770 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,600 band attached to the station and uh tell 771 00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:29,760 me your involvement and uh with that in 772 00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:32,399 any activation activities after that 773 00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,600 okay 774 00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:35,600 well the pmm will be a little simpler 775 00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:37,679 than the elc-4 because we're only using 776 00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:40,559 one arm to do it but it by its sheer 777 00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,600 size 778 00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,440 will be i think quite an amazing thing 779 00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:45,360 to see we have a lot of experience 780 00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:48,159 taking the mplms out of our shuttle 781 00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,600 payload bay and docking those to 782 00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:51,279 stations and obviously this is a one-way 783 00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,360 trip we're going to take it out and 784 00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:55,360 attach it to node one almost in the 785 00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,960 center of the stack and of course we'll 786 00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:58,159 leave it there 787 00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:00,799 tim kopra and i will be doing that task 788 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:03,279 tim being the lead robotics officer for 789 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,320 pmm 790 00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,799 and we will grab on to it we'll make 791 00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:08,640 sure that the shuttle guys undo the 792 00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:10,880 latches and unlock it so it's free 793 00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:13,520 floating and we'll take it out and back 794 00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:15,919 it off from the shuttle payload bay and 795 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,600 then we will fly it 796 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:19,440 quite a distance actually from the very 797 00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:21,039 front of the station to the middle of 798 00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:22,080 the stack 799 00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:24,640 and attach it to node 1. now a couple of 800 00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:27,039 differences are that when i was there 801 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:30,000 last there was no cupola which is a big 802 00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:31,520 domed 803 00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,399 wonderfully windowed extension on node 804 00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:36,480 3. we actually have a robotics 805 00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:38,559 workstation there so aside from our 806 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,080 camera views we're going to have this 807 00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,799 magnificent view of the pmm coming out 808 00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:44,480 of the shuttle payload bay and we're 809 00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,480 actually docking it almost right next to 810 00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,559 us on node one so we'll have that view 811 00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:50,399 and i think it's going to be wonderful 812 00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:52,640 and again it's a one-way trip 813 00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,960 when we put it there it's there 814 00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:56,559 we think probably for the station 815 00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,600 lifetime 816 00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:59,520 and once we get it there then we'll be 817 00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,360 able to do some of the outfitting we 818 00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:03,600 need so that bleak checks for instance 819 00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:05,360 are done we know that the ventilation 820 00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:07,200 circuit is good in there we've powered 821 00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:09,360 it and eventually we'll be able to crack 822 00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:11,679 the hatch and go inside so very much 823 00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:12,880 looking forward to getting that on 824 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:14,720 station 825 00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:18,000 you'll undock 826 00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:21,279 and prepare for your trip back home 827 00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:23,200 it may be one of the last opportunities 828 00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:25,039 for anybody to see 829 00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:26,640 the station from the vantage point of 830 00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:28,960 the inside from inside of the shuttle 831 00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:31,039 as you sit here today trying to imagine 832 00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:32,720 what that's going to be like what what 833 00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:35,279 are your thoughts about that 834 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:36,799 i think that 835 00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:39,360 the view of the space station 836 00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:40,960 from the shuttle 837 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:43,120 from everything i've seen 838 00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,480 from returned crew members in the videos 839 00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:48,240 has to be one of the most breathtaking 840 00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:51,120 sites available today and 841 00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:52,480 that's probably one of the things i'm 842 00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:54,399 looking forward to most as we approach 843 00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:55,760 the station 844 00:30:03,029 --> 00:29:59,760 have made it bigger we will have been 845 00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:03,039 with our friends for about eight days or 846 00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:05,760 so we will work very hard and i think 847 00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:08,320 we'll hopefully be whooped but very 848 00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:10,320 satisfied with the work we did 849 00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:12,080 and i think all of that is going to add 850 00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:14,559 to that view as we pull away and fly 851 00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:15,919 around it 852 00:31:57,190 --> 00:30:16,640 i 853 00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:57,200 program have returned so much to us 854 00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:59,279 in operating knowledge and scientific 855 00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:01,519 knowledge and